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		By: Jay Gumbs		</title>
		<link>https://amvsmlm.com/quixtar-scam-is-amway-a-legitimate-business#comment-1532</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jay Gumbs]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2025 22:30:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://amvsmlm.com/quixtar-scam-is-amway-a-legitimate-business#comment-1434&quot;&gt;Toni Scuirame&lt;/a&gt;.

If that were the case, I think it would have been already shut down by the FTC. Right now, it is free to become an IBO as they have done away with the registration fee. You might still need to purchase a kit but it is not required.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://amvsmlm.com/quixtar-scam-is-amway-a-legitimate-business#comment-1434">Toni Scuirame</a>.</p>
<p>If that were the case, I think it would have been already shut down by the FTC. Right now, it is free to become an IBO as they have done away with the registration fee. You might still need to purchase a kit but it is not required.</p>
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		By: Mitch		</title>
		<link>https://amvsmlm.com/quixtar-scam-is-amway-a-legitimate-business#comment-1501</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mitch]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Oct 2021 06:15:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Coming in years late to this discussion, so not saying anything that hasn&#039;t already been said. I joined up with Quixtar in the 1999/2000 timeframe. Found that I was way too busy with my active duty military career to have time for a side job. I made no money the year or two I was affiliated with Quixtar. But I&#039;ve always been interested in creating additional incomes. I&#039;m currently affiliated with LifeVantage, whose business model is very similar to Amway/Quixtar. But the selling nature of the job is just as challenging.  Hard to make a lot of money.  

You earlier expressed interest in an opportunity that someone mentioned on here. Last December I happened upon a totally passive opportunity to create a passive income without selling a single thing. And it takes no time from your life to do. It&#039;s membership based, and you earn 3 times the value of your membership over a 1.5 year period. 500 becomes 1500; 1000 becomes 3000 and so on. And that 3x earnings can become even greater if you exercise a simple strategy that keeps your earnings in play. This strategy has generated earnings for me of about 440 per day. I&#039;m self employed in the financial services industry and use this as a tool to help people who are woefully behind in retirement planning get caught up over a relatively short time span. Can also help people retire early if they choose. If you&#039;re interested, shoot me a note and I&#039;ll elaborate. Cheers, M/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Coming in years late to this discussion, so not saying anything that hasn&#8217;t already been said. I joined up with Quixtar in the 1999/2000 timeframe. Found that I was way too busy with my active duty military career to have time for a side job. I made no money the year or two I was affiliated with Quixtar. But I&#8217;ve always been interested in creating additional incomes. I&#8217;m currently affiliated with LifeVantage, whose business model is very similar to Amway/Quixtar. But the selling nature of the job is just as challenging.  Hard to make a lot of money.  </p>
<p>You earlier expressed interest in an opportunity that someone mentioned on here. Last December I happened upon a totally passive opportunity to create a passive income without selling a single thing. And it takes no time from your life to do. It&#8217;s membership based, and you earn 3 times the value of your membership over a 1.5 year period. 500 becomes 1500; 1000 becomes 3000 and so on. And that 3x earnings can become even greater if you exercise a simple strategy that keeps your earnings in play. This strategy has generated earnings for me of about 440 per day. I&#8217;m self employed in the financial services industry and use this as a tool to help people who are woefully behind in retirement planning get caught up over a relatively short time span. Can also help people retire early if they choose. If you&#8217;re interested, shoot me a note and I&#8217;ll elaborate. Cheers, M/</p>
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		By: Toni Scuirame		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Toni Scuirame]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2020 06:37:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://amvsmlm.com/quixtar-scam-is-amway-a-legitimate-business#comment-116&quot;&gt;Jay Gumbs&lt;/a&gt;.

This is a true pyramid scheme and is highly illegal!  That is the reason there are so many multi level marketing businesses out there because they are legal.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://amvsmlm.com/quixtar-scam-is-amway-a-legitimate-business#comment-116">Jay Gumbs</a>.</p>
<p>This is a true pyramid scheme and is highly illegal!  That is the reason there are so many multi level marketing businesses out there because they are legal.</p>
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		By: Jay Gumbs		</title>
		<link>https://amvsmlm.com/quixtar-scam-is-amway-a-legitimate-business#comment-1403</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jay Gumbs]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2020 03:40:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://amvsmlm.com/quixtar-scam-is-amway-a-legitimate-business#comment-1402&quot;&gt;Brian JL&lt;/a&gt;.

If there was something that everyone was able to do then everyone would be doing it. But this doesn&#039;t apply to MLM and that particular business model has had a bad name for years and for a lot of legit reasons.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://amvsmlm.com/quixtar-scam-is-amway-a-legitimate-business#comment-1402">Brian JL</a>.</p>
<p>If there was something that everyone was able to do then everyone would be doing it. But this doesn&#8217;t apply to MLM and that particular business model has had a bad name for years and for a lot of legit reasons.</p>
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		By: Brian JL		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brian JL]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2020 20:11:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Amway is terrible, but I have a new and better way for you to make money!

Give me a break.  All of you who are out there bad mouthing Amway/Quixtar to sell people on something similar but better are lazy sales people and I would say Amway/Qixtar is no more a scam than what you are selling.  Yes I said &quot;selling&quot; because that&#039;s what this is.  When did that profession get such a bad name?  Probably because people don&#039;t treat it as such.

I&#039;ll say for the record I am not a fan of MLM or Amway in general.  For those making money at it, I salute you but you are in the vast minority, single digit percentage and this is not for everybody.  

You don&#039;t have to call it selling, but anything with a downline will be constant work.  Residual income?  Maybe, but you have to keep recruiting constantly in order to maintain your PV.  It&#039;s a process, it&#039;s a lot of work and you will need support to pull it off, if you can.

They&#039;ll quote you on Kiyosaki&#039;s books.  The message is strong and positive, but maybe this is not the path for everyone.  

Anyone can do this, but everyone can&#039;t, if that makes sense.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amway is terrible, but I have a new and better way for you to make money!</p>
<p>Give me a break.  All of you who are out there bad mouthing Amway/Quixtar to sell people on something similar but better are lazy sales people and I would say Amway/Qixtar is no more a scam than what you are selling.  Yes I said &#8220;selling&#8221; because that&#8217;s what this is.  When did that profession get such a bad name?  Probably because people don&#8217;t treat it as such.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll say for the record I am not a fan of MLM or Amway in general.  For those making money at it, I salute you but you are in the vast minority, single digit percentage and this is not for everybody.  </p>
<p>You don&#8217;t have to call it selling, but anything with a downline will be constant work.  Residual income?  Maybe, but you have to keep recruiting constantly in order to maintain your PV.  It&#8217;s a process, it&#8217;s a lot of work and you will need support to pull it off, if you can.</p>
<p>They&#8217;ll quote you on Kiyosaki&#8217;s books.  The message is strong and positive, but maybe this is not the path for everyone.  </p>
<p>Anyone can do this, but everyone can&#8217;t, if that makes sense.</p>
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		By: Oliver		</title>
		<link>https://amvsmlm.com/quixtar-scam-is-amway-a-legitimate-business#comment-1384</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Oliver]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Dec 2019 04:35:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://amvsmlm.com/quixtar-scam-is-amway-a-legitimate-business#comment-410&quot;&gt;Skobro&lt;/a&gt;.

That&#039;s exactly what it can be, and it&#039;s not a get rich quick business, it&#039;s a 5 year plan. And what if you don&#039;t do it? Those 5 years are going to pass you by and there won&#039;t be any wealth created. Start your IBO today. You can write off your business expenses for tax savings, and even write off some products that you use as samples, etc. Love your comment!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://amvsmlm.com/quixtar-scam-is-amway-a-legitimate-business#comment-410">Skobro</a>.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s exactly what it can be, and it&#8217;s not a get rich quick business, it&#8217;s a 5 year plan. And what if you don&#8217;t do it? Those 5 years are going to pass you by and there won&#8217;t be any wealth created. Start your IBO today. You can write off your business expenses for tax savings, and even write off some products that you use as samples, etc. Love your comment!</p>
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		By: Jay Gumbs		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jay Gumbs]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 May 2019 05:28:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://amvsmlm.com/quixtar-scam-is-amway-a-legitimate-business#comment-1358&quot;&gt;Mark Harvey&lt;/a&gt;.

Don&#039;t call people idiots Mark because what you just described there is a discount club and is not how Amway is supposed to work. Of course, I&#039;ve heard that before at seminars and if you look up the definition of pyramid scheme on the FTC website, you would find what you just described there fit&#039;s the description exactly. To NOT be a pyramid scheme, an MLM must have retail customers outside of the business. In other words, your retail customers must not be other distributors (IBOS) of Amway. If everyone just joined Amway so they could purchase products and use them and then get paid for the points then that would be a classic pyramid scheme because all of the money is circulating within the business with those at the top benefiting the most from the activity of those at the bottom who get very little at all.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://amvsmlm.com/quixtar-scam-is-amway-a-legitimate-business#comment-1358">Mark Harvey</a>.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t call people idiots Mark because what you just described there is a discount club and is not how Amway is supposed to work. Of course, I&#8217;ve heard that before at seminars and if you look up the definition of pyramid scheme on the FTC website, you would find what you just described there fit&#8217;s the description exactly. To NOT be a pyramid scheme, an MLM must have retail customers outside of the business. In other words, your retail customers must not be other distributors (IBOS) of Amway. If everyone just joined Amway so they could purchase products and use them and then get paid for the points then that would be a classic pyramid scheme because all of the money is circulating within the business with those at the top benefiting the most from the activity of those at the bottom who get very little at all.</p>
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		By: Mark Harvey		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark Harvey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 May 2019 20:11:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://amvsmlm.com/quixtar-scam-is-amway-a-legitimate-business#comment-116&quot;&gt;Jay Gumbs&lt;/a&gt;.

Neither Amway or Quixtar is a pyramid scheme.  The bottom line is we all buy products ans services from somewhere.  Walmart, Bj&#039;s, Amazon, Ebay, etc...  Toothpaste, toilet paper, napkins, shampoo, detergents etc..  With Amway you buy the products you would already be buying but you purchase them from yourself through the umbrella corporation which is Amway.  Then you find other people to do the same thing, that is it.  You only get paid from the company.  You do not get paid by anybody under you that you sponsor as a business owner.  $250 in Business Volume (BV) = (PV) Points Volume 3%.  The more BV business you do every month the higher the points and higher the %.  Amway pays everybody the same for the efforts they do.  I get paid for my efforts BV by Amway not by my downline.  They get paid for BV from Amway not by their downline, and so on.  Showing this to your friends and family will not get you anywhere.  You need to find wealthier families that dont wat to have to shop every week that can order their products and services online from themselves through Amway and get paid from Amway by telling their 100&#039;s of friends that are like them to do the same thing, and so it continues over and over and over.  This is how hundreds of people a month are making a full time income and becoming financially free..  The only people that think that is a pyramid scheme are idiots...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://amvsmlm.com/quixtar-scam-is-amway-a-legitimate-business#comment-116">Jay Gumbs</a>.</p>
<p>Neither Amway or Quixtar is a pyramid scheme.  The bottom line is we all buy products ans services from somewhere.  Walmart, Bj&#8217;s, Amazon, Ebay, etc&#8230;  Toothpaste, toilet paper, napkins, shampoo, detergents etc..  With Amway you buy the products you would already be buying but you purchase them from yourself through the umbrella corporation which is Amway.  Then you find other people to do the same thing, that is it.  You only get paid from the company.  You do not get paid by anybody under you that you sponsor as a business owner.  $250 in Business Volume (BV) = (PV) Points Volume 3%.  The more BV business you do every month the higher the points and higher the %.  Amway pays everybody the same for the efforts they do.  I get paid for my efforts BV by Amway not by my downline.  They get paid for BV from Amway not by their downline, and so on.  Showing this to your friends and family will not get you anywhere.  You need to find wealthier families that dont wat to have to shop every week that can order their products and services online from themselves through Amway and get paid from Amway by telling their 100&#8217;s of friends that are like them to do the same thing, and so it continues over and over and over.  This is how hundreds of people a month are making a full time income and becoming financially free..  The only people that think that is a pyramid scheme are idiots&#8230;</p>
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		By: Jay Gumbs		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jay Gumbs]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 May 2019 15:39:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://amvsmlm.com/quixtar-scam-is-amway-a-legitimate-business#comment-1356&quot;&gt;Tom&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes I know that now. Amway has always been Amway and had an identity as Quixtar for a brief time.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://amvsmlm.com/quixtar-scam-is-amway-a-legitimate-business#comment-1356">Tom</a>.</p>
<p>Yes I know that now. Amway has always been Amway and had an identity as Quixtar for a brief time.</p>
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		By: Tom		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 May 2019 14:38:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://amvsmlm.com/quixtar-scam-is-amway-a-legitimate-business#comment-128&quot;&gt;Jay Gumbs&lt;/a&gt;.

Your facts are definitely incorrect. Jay Vanandale and Rick DeVoss crested Amwayway before Quixtar. When the internet really got going is when Quixtar began because I was a distributor doing both back in the day.  I stopped because my job transferred me away from by upline people. The business was fun and I really enjoyed the people associated with it.
TF]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://amvsmlm.com/quixtar-scam-is-amway-a-legitimate-business#comment-128">Jay Gumbs</a>.</p>
<p>Your facts are definitely incorrect. Jay Vanandale and Rick DeVoss crested Amwayway before Quixtar. When the internet really got going is when Quixtar began because I was a distributor doing both back in the day.  I stopped because my job transferred me away from by upline people. The business was fun and I really enjoyed the people associated with it.<br />
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